Will They Still Want The Electoral College Scrapped--posted by Tony Garcia on 10/28/2012
They wants the Electoral College done away with. My hunch was it was pure politics, a gambit to ferment discontent and fan the belief of disillusionment while misleading people to believe they were disenfranchised by the genius of the Electoral College. I did not believe their words to be sincere.
Polls and probabilities are showing a growing possibility of Romney winning the popular vote while Obama wins the election. That would give us a great chance to see if those people were hacks putting their party above any principles or if they actually believe what they said.
One fine example is Secretary Clinton and President Obama. Let us remember her position after the 2000 election.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — Shortly after the 2000 election, as a newly-minted Senator-elect, Clinton called for direct elections of the president. She argued the country has changed since the Electoral College was put in place.And another example of a prominent politician who said the Electoral College needed to be done away was President Obama.
“We are a very different country than we were 200 years ago,” Clinton said at a news conference.
“I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people and to me, that means it’s time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president.”
Obama said he supported eliminating the Electoral College as a Senate candidate during a WTTW television debate against Republican Alan Keyes in 2004.Oh, don't worry. I won't be surprised to get some Righties pissing vinegar about the Electoral College. Here are some on the record for maintaining it.
When asked, “Yes or no, eliminate the Electoral College?” Obama responded, “Yes … I think, at this point, this is breaking down.”
Vice President Biden and Senator Orin Hatch vote against the idea the last time it reached the Senate floor in 1979. There is also Senate Minority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell.
The Senate minority leader told the Associated Press two days after the 2000 election that presidential candidates would avoid small states if the Electoral College was eliminated.I agree with him.
“If we did away with the Electoral College, an awful lot of states would never get a visit from a presidential candidate,” McConnell said.
In 2011, McConnell blasted a national popular vote movement that would circumvent a constitutional amendment. He claimed it would lead to an extreme number of recounts.
“The proponents of this absurd and dangerous concept are trying to get this done while nobody notices, just sort of sneak this through,” and “we need to kill it in the cradle before it grows up.”
Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) — The chairwoman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee shares the same opinion as McConnell about smaller states losing power without the system.
"Washington (state) would be hurt dramatically,” Murray told a Vancouver, Wash., high school on Nov. 20, 2000.
"Presidential candidates wouldn't come here."
Notice the mixed company in opposition of the change?
Let me give the names of a few others wanting to do away with the Electoral College. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), Rep. Ray LaHood (R-Ill.), who is now Obama’s Secretary of Transportation, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) and Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y). Notice the homogeneity in party on this side? One of them had the most ridiculous concept for a justification. Durbin actually posited that people who vote for the loser in a state are disenfranchised.
"Our current system disenfranchises millions of voters who happen to vote for the losing presidential candidate in their state," Durbin said. “The electoral college is an 18th century invention that never should have survived to the 21st century.Someone who votes and whose vote is tallied cannot by definition be disenfranchised. This is a buzzword to make people believe the speaker's position is a moral imperative and in that vein is a very specious and despicable method of communication.
I saved this one for last mostly because he both changed his story and did it while erroneously leading people to believe that not being visited by the candidates constitutes disenfranchisement.
Former Vice President Al Gore — After the 2000 election, Gore continued to support the current system. But Gore reversed course during this year’s Democratic National Convention, criticizing the process that ignores voters outside of swing states and cost him the election.Sorry, that is nowhere close to disenfranchisement and it only perpetuates a broken victim mentality.
“I’ve seen how these states are written off and ignored, and people are effectively disenfranchised in the presidential race. And I really do now think it is time to change that,” Gore said on Current TV.
From the World English Dictionary:
1. to deprive (a person) of the right to vote or other rights of citizenshipIt is like they do not know what it means...or are counting on the public to be too stupid to know what it means.
Anyway, we might get to see a lot of people suddenly rationalizing a 180 in their "beliefs" and principles. Should be fun to watch.